Beatles Box Arrives!

The Beatles box arrived today, oh boy. Please give me some time to carefully listen before reviewing. If you are a "completist" you will have to buy two sets because the outer slipcase simply cannot be removed without destroying it. I'm about to do that to get to the insides.

More later. Much later. This will take some time to get through completely.

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Shaffer's picture
You have to turn the box

You have to turn the box upsidedown to remove the outer case. Ask me how I know.

Michael Fremer's picture
Turned Upside Down

I tried that. I tried everything but silicone grease. Nothing budged it and I was loathe to apply an X-acto knife and risk cutting the actual box just to get the promo wrapping. 

But how do you know turning it upside down (supposedly) does the trick?

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chrisjames's picture
Beatles book picture looks so

Beatles book picture looks so good, I wonder if i could get this as a sovereign of deeds.

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chrisjames's picture
As i am lover of Beatles, How

As i am lover of Beatles, How can i buy two sets because the outer slipcase simply cannot be removed without destroying the rest, plz guide. Regards, Wealth Management Jupiter

chrisjames's picture
The price of the box is not

The price of the box is not mention, plz make it easier for ordinary people to go for the record box, Love to hear the BEATLES.

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Dpoggenburg's picture
Methodologies

Big day today; I'm waiting for UPS to arrive. I'm grateful to be forewarned about less than optimal packaging. Shaffer, if you have more commentary to add, please feel free to advise.

Michael, I'm of course very much looking forward to your review. When you get around to writing it up, could you also describe some of your methods? For example, besides the sources being compared (presumably UK issues, but possibly Japanese, German, etc?), do you tend to listen to whole sides, whole lps, or focus in on specific tracks when you compare. Thanks - and thanks for such a great web site!

MusicNut612's picture
Noisy press

I only picked up a couple of these being there digital remasters and not willing to jump right in on them. Not sure if I just got unlucky or if it's with all of them buy my copy of Abbey Road is filled with noise. So much to the point that it's just annoying and takes away from the music. After a couple listens it's not getting any better either. Used all the stuff, mofi cleaner, zerostat, gruv glide, even some dish soap nothing has helped. I also noticed the deadwax was filled with scratches fresh out the sleeve. I'm guessing they used URP for the pressing of these, just stinks of them all over it. Of course that's just my assumption. I have US versions, not sure if the Euro versions are better pressed, but I wouldn't get all too excited over at least the Abbey Road. Just a let down.

Shaffer's picture
FWIW, my copy of Abbey Road

FWIW, my copy of Abbey Road (from the Box) is very quiet.

Michael Fremer's picture
Not URP

Was Rainbo

marmaduke's picture
Rainbo

So is that a good thing?

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MusicNut612's picture
Opened up a second copy at the store...

Was the exact same thing. Deadwax was filled with these circle like scratches fresh out the sleeve. The sound was horrible, Something In The Way was simply unlistenable on both. The B-side was also filled with distortion. I heard it as did several of the guys working there. All agreed, major let down. At least I was giving a credit for the purchase.  Grabbed Revolver, White Album, and Let It Be. All 3 of them sound just fine. Little bit of noise here and there, but nothing like the Abbey Road. That press, or at least the ones I've had my hands on, is completely unacceptable. Another mark against Rainbo I would say. I can say without a doubt there are some bad presses of Abbey Road, and I guarantee I'm not the only one that'll find this true.

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MusicNut612's picture
Sgt Peppers all good

Yeah starting to think I got a defective copy. Sgt Peppers is like a whole other world of records compared to the Abbey Road I have. Nice and silent, no scratches. The soundstage seems to be a bit fuller also. Maybe that's just the mastering though? Be taking back this copy of Abbey Road in hopes that I just got a bad copy.

Dpoggenburg's picture
box set cover removal

I followed Shaffer's advice about turning the box upside down, but think the orientation is not important. The slip case is EXTREMELY tight, and sort of vacuums on to the box set. I very gently pulled the cover, working it side to side, and it eventually came off.

HOWEVER, if you are doing it UPSIDE DOWN, the lid top will open up after the slip case comes off, SO USE CAUTION, or try it right side up. I would recommend right side up UNLESS you're getting no movement with the slip cover, then try upside down but slow down as you approach the last third of the box (where the lid will begin).

Of course, since I'm NEVER going to put the slip cover back over the box, I have to figure out a way to store it so it doesn't get creased. God I hate being a collector....

John G's picture
Buying The Beatles

While we await Michael's review I thought folks might be interested in this piece if you haven't already seen it regarding the White Album.  

http://www.analogplanet.com/content/buying-beatles-white-album-0

Bigrasshopper's picture
Euro pressing

So Micheal, do we know where the Euro box was pressed?

Westrell's picture
About the tight cover.....

I picked up mine today straight from musicdirect. No issues on the cover on mine. The cover is tight but it slipped out rather easily. Just do it slowly......relax

JoeM's picture
So Far So Good

Working from home gave me a chance to start spinning some of the albums. I honestly have never heard the Beatles sound so good. Well worth the wait! So far, I've listened to the following:

Rubber Soul (by the way, I think it's the George Martin remix here)
Revolver
Past Master (the second LP only)
Abbey Road

I'm about to audition the White Album. I have an old Italian pressing of it so am curious to do a comparison.

I had some concerns when I heard that the records were not being pressed at a tried and true plant such as Pallas, especially for 180g vinyl. I have to say, the pressing sounds fantastic. Whoever was in charge really put a lot of TLC behind this (and probaby double QA duty). Okay, now back (to the U.S.S.R) for some more listening!

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JoeM's picture
So Far So Good

Working from home gave me a chance to start spinning some of the albums. I honestly have never heard the Beatles sound so good. Well worth the wait! So far, I've listened to the following:

Rubber Soul (by the way, I think it's the George Martin remix here)
Revolver
Past Master (the second LP only)
Abbey Road

I'm about to audition the White Album. I have an old Italian pressing of it so am curious to do a comparison.

I had some concerns when I heard that the records were not being pressed at a tried and true plant such as Pallas, especially for 180g vinyl. I have to say, the pressing sounds fantastic. Whoever was in charge really put a lot of TLC behind this (and probaby double QA duty). Okay, now back (to the U.S.S.R) for some more listening!

djvitamind's picture
Amazon

Pre-orded from Amazon for $309.99 and now remember why I don't like ordering box sets from Amazon. They simply don't package well. It was placed in a box with no padding on the bottom and sides. Corners were bent and paper was worn off.

Now waiting for a replacement.

marmaduke's picture
Can't wait for a real review? Try this

Can't wait for MF to render his verdict?

If you care to Google Beatles Vinyl Box Set you will see a hot link entitled Beatles Vinyl Box Set news (or close to it) about 1/4 down the screen.

There is one review by the Examiner which is OK, but the review by the Chicago Tribune had the most interesting wrinkles to me in what appears to have been at least a sincere attempt by the non audio press to provide some useful insight into the sound of the new releases.

Not definitive, but interesting.

BlueLou222's picture
so far so good

I have listened to Past Masters backwards to half of The White Album. So far the pressings are very quiet and have good dynamics. Levels are right at unity gain according to my mixers meter levels. Wish they used the faster bit rate but I have the reissued CD set and the 24bit transfers used for the vinyl reissues shows the improvement in fidelity like night and day . i do not have any other pressings to compare these to. I am very happy overall.

Thurenity's picture
I haven't been as fortunate as others

Received my US boxed set today (ordered from Walmart.com -- perhaps that was a bad omen to begin with?).   I've scanned through four LP's so far and they all have various degrees of non-fill issues.  I can see that stitch-like pattern on the LP's, and sure enough I can hear it as well.  Sometimes it's very faint, but on some tracks it's the worst non-fill I've ever heard.

I've heard some horror stories about Rainbo, but I figured I'd take the risk.  Luckily Walmart should take this back via a trip to the store, so no harm no foul assuming the rest of the LP's are in the same shape.   I'm also on the SHTV forums and so far it's been hit or miss for some of us, as far as pressing QC is concerned.

roscoeiii's picture
Rainbo not such a good thing

No, Rainbo is not generally considered a good thing when it comes to pressings. At present, in the US, you cross your fingers that the pressings are RTI or QRP. In Europe Pallas gets a lot of praise.

It seems a number of folks on the SH Forum are opting to buy European pressings of the new Beatles LPs due to concerns about Rainbo's pressing quality or quality control.

unclebill's picture
Pressing

Just receved my box set from Music Direct, have'nt opened yet.

Frist, what or who is Rainbo? Second how can you tell where pressing are done?

Thurenity's picture
US remastered LP = Rainbo pressed

If it's a US LP, it was pressed at Rainbo.

I have a lot of no-fill issues.  Mr. Fremer actually has a blog about how to check for no-fill visually -- looks like a "string of pearls" or a stitch like pattern in bright, and may show up audibly as crackling sound on one channel.  But not normal surface noise, it sounds like a cleaning brush went over your stylus.

lstookey's picture
Exactly

I can see the stitch like pattern you describe on my copy of the White Album. Sounds like garbage. I saw the stitches and wondered WTF. Thanks for the explanation. Now I will avoid Rainbo like the plague.