Led Zeppelin File Identities Revealed

For those taking the time to listen to the two posted files in the Led Zeppelin III review....

"Sample 1" was the Bernie Grundman cut for Classic Records

"Sample 2" was the Jimmy Page supervised mastering cut by John Davis

COMMENTS
TapeMonkey's picture

Usually I download these files and then procrastinate until I don't care anymore. But this one I downloaded (before reading this) and listened to each file several times. After compensating for apparent volume (just using the volume dial) and being really honest with myself, I had to go with option one (it felt a bit warmer, which I tend to prefer).

Denis Combet's picture

They are indeed very close...but for me it is 2: less spacial dimension, yes, but not as harsh perhaps. The sound is more natural, the bass sounds better. From all the classics I had, the Led Zeppelin III was harsher and I preferred my Canadian copy (Red Label: T.G), more balanced and smoother for such an acoustic album. I had the German copy Michael mentioned, and although different, it was as good. Unfortunately I had to brought it back to the store because it was skipping in few places. Reading all the very good comments here about the qualities of all those different pressings in time and space, I feel regretful, I let my classics go a year ago (I, II, III and HOTH). But I found my original Canadian pressings I and II on Warner Bros.- seven arts records of Canada, sounding better. Even so the U.K Plum/Orange Led Zeppelin rocks the Heavens. Thank you for all the different comments. I can't wait for Michael comments on IV and Houses of the Holy...

Jim Tavegia's picture

file one is much warmer.

Catcher10's picture

Downloading music files....ughh the horror

archiekaras's picture

Both are indeed close when listening to the digital files, however I strongly believe that comparing digital files is ABSOLUTELY NOT! a fair way to compare these prints. In fact it is misleading and can give some advantage to the new release. One is FULL ANALOGUE (classic Records/BG) the other is a DIGITAL TRANSFER(Atlantic,Page+Davis). When you convert both of them into the digital domain, for comparisons sake, you are essentially handicapping Bernie's hard work. I think it would be better to compare them side by side in the analog domain. I love what you do Mikey but, over and over I keep seeing you put up digital comparison files that lead to false conclusions. They are great for crowd involvement and "fun", but lets get real here the subtle characteristics of analogue are hardly transferred through these files. If I go on youtube and listen to a Wilson Watt puppy through am I hearing a Wilson Watt puppy or my desktop speakers ? You get my point.

I must however commend you on BOYCOTTING the digital release, and not being shy or biased in your assessment of this new print. I will never buy a copy of this EVER ever EVAHHHHH...but my vinyl spidey senses indicate that it will not be long before Analogue Productions puts out the Zep collection. They have been slowly doing the entire classic records catalog with great success so why not. This would be great, since copies of the classic pressings are astronomical in price at the moment as are plum originals. The only hurdle would be getting AP/Kevin Gray to be honest about the analog-ness of their source/signalchain/and mastering which they just about always fail to confirm.

Michael Fremer's picture
Keep in mind I write my review comparing both in the analog domain before posting the files. It's a fun exercise that is useful but as you write it's with an enormous caveat: digitizing an AAA LP and comparing that to an AAD LP is not exactly fair...but I still think it's useful..
analogkid14's picture

I suppose if you own a Classic pressing you don't really need this new reissue, but I paid $18 for this album, and it's better than a US Atlantic pressing of unknown vintage I had, so there you go.

One thing about the reissues, the CD's don't hurt my ears at decent volume. I think they are pretty good all things considered.

martinjohnbutler's picture

Hi Michael, please let me know where can I hear the files, I wasn't able to find them through the search engine.

I always liked the sound of Atlantic Records vinyl. Any record I had that was an Atlantic Record always sounded good to me, better than other labels, or maybe it was just EQ'd and mastered in a way I liked,
but that's fine with me.

martinjohnbutler's picture

Ahh, I found them. When I listen to music, or even audition a piece of audio production hardware for my home studio, I look for what I call "dreaming". It's a state of mind where my imagination takes flight and all sorts of feelings arise, desire for a particular experience, a memory of a place or a person, sadness, joy, an adrenaline rush, or a deep connection to the emotions of the artists. Track 2, sounded better, clearer, more definition of the individual parts, less mud to smear the soundstage, etc. But it was track 1 that got me "dreaming". I'd rather feel music with my heart than know it with my mind, so for me, track 1 is what I'd want to listen to at home.

martinjohnbutler's picture

Ahh, I found them. When I listen to music, or even audition a piece of audio production hardware for my home studio, I look for what I call "dreaming". It's a state of mind where my imagination takes flight and all sorts of feelings arise, desire for a particular experience, a memory of a place or a person, sadness, joy, an adrenaline rush, or a deep connection to the emotions of the artists. Track 2, sounded better, clearer, more definition of the individual parts, less mud to smear the soundstage, etc. But it was track 1 that got me "dreaming". I'd rather feel music with my heart than know it with my mind, so for me, track 1 is what I'd want to listen to at home.

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