Steely Dan’s All-Analog Countdown to Ecstasy 200g 45rpm 2LP Set Establishes the Gold Standard for All Upcoming Releases in This Stellar UHQR Analogue Productions Series

Steely Dan were finally hitting their stride with July 1973’s Countdown to Ecstasy. After setting the SD sonic template with November 1972’s debut LP on ABC Records, Can’t Buy Thrill, they reshuffled some personnel — for one thing, original co-lead vocalist David Palmer departed (albeit providing some backing vocals here and there), while keyboard whiz kid Donald Fagen took over essentially all the lead vocals fulltime, from this point forward — and the five-piece collective worked out much of their sophomore album’s core material live onstage during 1973’s hectic tour schedule, all of which added to Countdown’s inherent interactive grit.

The next treatise in the mighty Dan’s West Coast decay-and-decadence diary, Countdown to Ecstasy is the blueprint for how the band’s conjoined pair of masterminds, the aforementioned Donald Fagen and Walter Becker, would come to both chronicle and embody the excesses of the ’70s — sometimes in firsthand documentarian fashion and other times via more ironically detached narratives, more than occasionally resulting in soaring over the heads of numerous listeners who never quite got the sardonicism therein.

The version of Countdown we have here before us today is also the second entry in Analogue Productions' comprehensive Steely Dan UHQR series, which began in earnest with quite the bang last fall with Can’t Buy a Thrill. (You can read my own News report about the entire Steely Dan UHQR series to come here, and then you can read my esteemed colleague Mark Smotroff’s review of the UHQR Thrill here.)

The basic series stats are these. The 45rpm 2LP UHQR version of Countdown has been pressed at Analogue Productions’ Quality Record Pressings on 200g Clarity Vinyl, packaged in a deluxe box, and it includes a booklet detailing the entire process of making a UHQR along with a certificate of inspection. Each UHQR is pressed using hand-selected vinyl. The Countdown box set, as do the other entries in this series, has an SRP of $150.

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Countdown to Unboxing
I totally get why there are those who continue to balk outright at the $150 pricetag for these UHQR editions, which is one reason why I’m going to spend a decent amount of time and space here discussing the packaging specifically to give you a better sense of what you’re paying for beyond the pair of 200g LPs themselves. Me, I tend to look at any given box set’s contents not only from the audiophile perspective, but also from the collector’s perspective. And yes, we all deal with shelving issues — and that’s certainly a legit dilemma as time rolls on and the deluxe reissues and box sets just keep on a-coming — but as long as there is a relatively uniform presentation to them, I can usually accommodate these boxes in and on my primary shelving units (which are, admittedly, always seeming to be in a growth pattern).

In the case of Countdown, the black textured box looks as upwardly classy as all UHQRs do, and it uniformly fits alongside other UHQR boxes, with a clearly delineated spine with sans-serif gold type that’s easy to read at a glance. As I often do with box sets, I unfurled my trusty Lufkin Red End folding ruler to measure it exactly, just to make sure. By my count, this box measures 13 3/8 x 12 13/16 x 1 1/8 inches (w/h/d), and it slides open to the right quite effortlessly, thanks to its grippable, convex edge. The ease of accessibility to what’s inside this box is in stark contrast to so many uniformly square/rectangular box sets that verge on being too seamlessly aligned in a way that makes removing any of the inner contents somewhat of a chore — and, if you’re not careful and/or get as frustrated/impatient as yours truly does sometimes, your fingernails may wind up scraping the outer surface and leave behind a mark. I’ve done that more than once over the years, and, believe me, I absolutely hate being somewhat personally responsible for blemishing a pristine cover.

I also took care to affix the two hype stickers from the outer shell’s protective plastic wrap directly onto the box’s front cover, both of them on the all-black right side so as not to cover up the gold-framed Countdown album cover image that is perfectly center-squared. (Incidentally, the blue-hued sci-fi-centric cover art itself is courtesy of artist Dotty White.)

Now, some collectors pooh-pooh this hype-sticker-affixing practice outright, but my view is this — that’s how I saw the box’s presentation when I opened up the box it was shipped in, so that’s where I want those stickers to be visible every time I look at the cover. To each his own, but that’s my preference. Additionally, I can’t stand it when hype stickers don’t peel away from the plastic wrap all in one piece, and/or leave behind any sticky/glue residue and don’t affix to the cover properly. If you must know, I did a much better job with peeling-and-placing the 2½ x 3¾-in rectangular “Guarantee” sticker at the bottom right than I did with the shinier circular ¾-in “100% Analog Masters” one upwards near the top right. (The latter one may eventually have to be placed inside the box if it doesn’t stay in place, truth be told.)

Inside that sturdy outer box, the contents within the half-cornered durable interior Countdown box is presented as follows, from top to bottom: 1) four-sided UHQR certificate of inspection pamphlet, horizontally positioned; 2) four-sided UHQR Technical Specifications Manual; 3) four-sided Acoustic Sounds Fall 2022 release hype sheet; 4) four-sided Countdown liner notes booklet, which includes five new paragraphs from Donald Fagen; 5) both individually sleeved 45rpm black-labeled clear discs inside one outer plastic sleeve; and 6) glossy cardboard gatefold Countdown album sleeve. In direct comparison, the contents of the Can’t Buy a Thrill UHQR box were presented in the exact same six-layer fashion, including the horizontal positioning of the certificate of inspection.

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Finally, a few words about the liners before I move on to the music. The Fagen liners in the Thrill box were much more detailed than they are here in Countdown, perhaps being a function of Thrill serving as the inaugural entry in this series and thus needing a bit more of a broad-view context overall. If you happen to have the 1998 MCA CD reissue like I do, you’ve seen a much more involved set of liners co-written by Fagen and Becker under the general header of “Thought + Action = Feeling” — as good a statement of purpose as you’ll find for any album, to be honest. Hopefully, we’ll get more details from Fagen as this UHQR series roll on, as the bold-type postscript at the end of the five Countdown paragraphs ends with a succinct “will continue in” teaser. (In case you’re wondering why Becker isn’t being quoted in the new liners, he passed away in 2017.)

Listening Sessions, a.k.a. As Good as Gold Teeth
And now, it’s listening time! Both of my clear-vinyl Countdown discs were spot-clean and well-centered, with the first disc fitting a bit more snugly on the spindle than the second disc did. The black labels sport a Geffen logo centered at the top in place of the various ABC logos found on earlier LP editions (something my man Smotroff discusses at length in his Thrill UHQR review, so I won’t repeat any of it here). I made sure Disc 1 was well-clamped before Side A began to spin. The length of the run-in groove gave me enough time to get back into my sweet-spot seat once I dropped the needle.

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Track 1, “Bodhisattva” — or is it actually “Bodhisaatva” with the extra a in the middle and one less t, as it appears at the outset of paragraph three of Fagen’s new liners? — got the heart-pumping/foot-tapping ball a-rolling. As Fagen put it in those liners, this song “is what swing era musicians used to call a ‘flag-waver’; that is, an up tempo number that is supposed to wake up the audience.” His piano intro nestles in at center-left as the opening guitar riff rolls in at the right, and the repeated handclaps before the vocals finally kick in have a more crisp character to them than they do on my original (and admittedly well-played) 1973 ABC Records / Pitman Pressing LP.

The Jeff “Skunk” Baxter and Denny Dias dual lead-guitar tandem is ultimately this track’s main focus — a veritable chops ’n’ cutting heads clinic, to be sure. You can almost visualize how these players trade-off their one-up solo turns with the ever-so-slight pauses between those “your turn/top this!” moments. I also love the rockabilly-tinged fretboard walk on the right before the more-centered riff’s run takes off. Speaking of tradeoffs, the whirlybird synth line on the left and the ensuing guitar responses on the right was a good sign that even more pivotal musical moments were ahead of me.

Listen for Fagen’s insistent inflections of each more-than-slightly-echoed repeat of the four-syllable title word “Bodhisattva” in the song’s back half — is he running out of breath, or just adding emphasis and punch as needed before the track’s final, all-in denouement crescendo? (“Look out!” indeed.)

Track 2, “Razor Boy,” downshifts into midtempo jazzy waters, with Fagen’s more naked lead vocals residing in the middle. On the choruses, the triangle is off to the left and Victor Feldman’s percussion accents are over to the right. Baxter’s pedal-steel solo is a work of art, and I continue to marvel at his somewhat subtle pedal-steel choices that both mirror and springboard from some of the vocal lines on the verses. You should also be able to discern Roy Brown’s tasteful string-bass plucking making its presence known for a few short bars as the track closes.

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Side B also cued up clean, with “The Boston Rag” kicking things off with Fagen’s throaty, strained vocals on the opening lines, “Any news was good news / And the feeling was bad at home.” Dig the parallel piano notes from Fagen paired with drummer Jim Hodder’s cymbal taps that subsequently spread out across the soundfield like a curtain opening up for Baxter’s guitar-solo spotlight, which starts off quiet and is note-noodly before it ramps up in terms of both note-frequency and some gnarly amp buzz ’n’ crackle to boot. Admittedly, I did want more oomph from the stacked background vocals on the phrase, “Bring back the Boston Rag,” and I couldn’t help but wonder how Michael McDonald would have taken them to a higher place. (Soon enough, he’d be brought in to do that exact kind of thing recurrently just two albums later, starting with March 1975’s Katy Lied.)

Track 2, “Your Gold Teeth,” is a pure ensemble piece with a palpable, nervous (and possibly chemically enhanced) energy level, with Fagen’s synth bringing to mind mid-period George Duke, his own multiple solo turns balanced by more than a few clean guitar breaks. Feldman’s percussion again adds that extra touch when warranted. As “Teeth” begins to fade out during minute seven, I wanted it to keep going.

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Then it was on to the second disc (which dropped onto the spindle slightly less snug than the first disc did) and Side C, which opens via the powder-drenched updated/warped doo-wop of “Show Biz Kids.” Rick Derringer’s searing slide guitar appears all throughout the song, call-and-responding between many of Fagen’s verse lines before moving more upfront in the mix to take the track home. Fagen’s upward lilt on the final word of the second line of the deliberately self-aware phrase, “They got the Steely Dan T-shirt / And for the coup-de-gras” adds the extra push required for the kicker, “They’re outrageous.” Becker gets into the act with some tasteful harmonica stabs near the end, interspersed with muted, filmic dialogue.

The album’s best-known track, “My Old School,” ends Side C with rah-rah rejection aplomb. It’s a cut many of us have probably heard one too many times on compressed radio, so I was probably even more receptive to receiving the fuller breadth of the female-dominant vocal blends on the titular choruses and the clear swing and verve of the saxophone section. I also appreciated the overall arrangement choice to dial the accompaniment back during two of the guitar solos so they were essentially backed only by Hodder’s cowbell rather than a full-on percussive and/or instrumental assault. All that said, I still prefer this version to the one on my original above-noted 1973 ABC Records LPs — or on any of my MCA LPs, for that matter. (Class dismissed!)

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Side D takes “Countdown home, first with “Pearl of the Quarter” — my least favorite track on the album, truth be told, though I will acknowledge the fine acoustic guitar accents from Ben Benay and Baxter’s returning pedal-steel mastery. The album’s final track, “King of the World,” finds Fagen’s somewhat disembodied vocals sent wide across the soundfield and never truly centered, usually accompanied by jangly guitar riffage over to the right. The two synthy solo segments are wide and breezy, the last one eventually giving way to a furious guitar run off to the left (though that constant jangly counter remains over to the right).

Conclusions
Upon repeated listens, the UHQR version of Steely Dan’s Countdown to Ecstasy continues to reveal itself to be truly worthy of a 10/10 rating in terms of both Music and Sound, each of them being a respective notch above the Thrill UHQR, not to mention being my preferred choice over any of the ABC and/or MCA Records versions I own.

To modify a line from “Show Biz Kids,” the overall Steely Dan persona/vibe may appear that they don’t give a f!#?, but they sure as bleep do care more than a great deal about how they write, arrange, record, and ultimately sound on vinyl. If Countdown sets the current Steely Dan gold standard for 200g 2LP UHQR excellence, then the next expected entry in this series, February 1974’s Pretzel Logic, should ratchet up the expectations, and the executions thereof, considerably.

Bravo, Analogue Productions — bravo. Countdown to Ecstasy delivers across the board, full stop. Man, I simply cannot wait to give those upcoming UHQR pretzel platters a spin (or ten) when the time comes.

Music Direct Buy It Now

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STEELY DAN
COUNTDOWN TO ECSTASY

200g 2LP 45rpm (Geffen/Analogue Productions)

Side A
1. Bodhisattva
2. Razor Boy

Side B
1. The Boston Rag
2. Your Gold Teeth

Side C
1. Show Biz Kids
2. My Old School

Side D
1. Pearl Of The Quarter
2. King Of The World

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COMMENTS
PeterPani's picture

Another Fine review. I would be tempted to buy. As European I did not know Steely Dan. Since there was much reporting about that group in the last months I listened to it on my Ipod and I like it. I opted for the original pressing, but waited for reviews of the UHQR.
Experience tells me, it can happen that a fantastic sounding record after several listening sessions sits on my shelf like a stone. Usually, one day I discover, it was mastered digitally in one step of the mastering.
Therefore it is (to me) still of interest, whether a record was mastered AAA or not, before buying.
Really, 9 of 10 times I reach for analog records in my collection. Maybe I am crazy. But to me, it ends there: it is my buying decision.
All the information I get (up to now) is fuzzy about the mastering chain.

Mike Mettler's picture
We've discussed the mastering elsewhere, which you can access via the links included early on in the review, and I didn't want to repeat that info word for word in the review itself. That said, here's how it's been described:

All albums in this reissue series are being remastered by Bernie Grundman from the original analog tapes except for 1) September 1977’s Aja, which will be mastered from an analog, non-EQ’d, tape copy, and 2) November 1980’s Gaucho, which will be sourced from a 1980 analog tape copy originally EQ’d by Bob Ludwig. How come, you ask? According to the label, there is “no evidence the original tapes containing the flat mixes of Aja and Gaucho were delivered to the record label and it’s presumed the tapes no longer exist.”

Also, here's a photo of the master tapes boxes that appear inside the Countdown liner notes insert for further edification -- both Countdown master tape boxes show them to be 30 IPS Dolby masters and not EQ'd copies. (I may just include this in the review itself at some point, along with a caption update.)

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PeterPani's picture

Yes, I have seen that info. The mastering is from tapes. The info on the UHQR box says this, too.
But it is not stated clearly that the signal from the tape head to the cutter tip stays in the analog domain. Many times it gets lost in a digital mastering-consle or finally in a digital delay for the cutter head...

Just wondering, why they don't put a clear AAA on the box. I am convinced that would multiply the units for sale. When I go for high prized audiophile records I buy AAA-labelled records only. At least until somebody tells me convincingly, why they don't label their records AAA, when they are AAA anyway. Because that makes no sense to me, I get quite confused...

Mike Mettler's picture
Agreed that a) it can be confusing in terms of the overall process about what's used and how it's used, and b) perhaps the AAA box distinction is something worth considering for future releases.
James Kelly's picture

Sorry, $150.00 plus shipping is way too much.

hnphnp's picture

While I don't doubt the quality and the luxurious packaging, I could easily do without the luxurious packaging and settle for a nice reproduction of the original. I'd gladly pay $50 but $150? Yikes.

brenro12's picture

Not certain my equipment nor my old ears can get the full benefit of 45 RPM records not to mention flipping discs every two songs. Will this be released on 180 gram 33.3 as they did on Can't Buy A Thrill?

Mike Mettler's picture
Good Q! I have yet to see a scheduled release date of release for a UMe 180g 1LP version of Countdown, as that label had done with Thrill last November, though my initial understanding was that the UHQR series would be paralleled accordingly by UMe "throughout" the year -- though they would be using different lacquers, et al, as per the following notation about how they did the Thrill 180g LP...

Lacquers for UMe’s standard 180g version of Can’t Buy a Thrill will be cut by Alex Abrash at his renowned AA Mastering studio from high-resolution digital files of Grundman’s new masters, and pressed at Precision. These LPs will be housed in reproductions of the original artwork.

rich d's picture

May I please pay $30 and just have Side C in a plain sleeve? Those are two of my three favorite Steely Dan songs; I'd be quite happy just getting those and spending the remaining $120 on beer.

Mike Mettler's picture
Actually, wouldn't it be a cool Record Store Day idea for the future -- doing limited runs of favorite sides/tracks from certain albums, a la the 10-inch and 12-inch extended singles of yore...?
Chemguy's picture

Nice review! You must have received a copy without the whistling sound on Side 1, then. AP is sending a replacement disc for those of us unlucky enough to have pounced early.

Mike Mettler's picture
Thanks for the kind words -- and nope, there was no whistling on my Side A, though I did read a number of posts from those who had it on theirs. Always good to see how AP goes above-and-beyond when it comes to accommodating replacement copies. Let me know what you think once you have a chance to spin yours!
Steve Arnold's picture

Really? News to me that a replacement disc was being offered. I complained twice to AP right after I received my copy before I finally received a response, which in a nutshell was, "it's on the tape, and couldn't be removed." So is it not actually a tape-related issue, and if not, why was I told differently? Also, by bringing it to their attention, why didn't they offer me a replacement? Confused...

Chemguy's picture

They’re doing it. AP wants proof of destruction of the faulty Disc 1 in your possession. They’re sending mine when I make my next purchase...shipping to a Canada has prohibitive costs.

Steve Arnold's picture

Thanks for your reply; interesting. I actually called AP, spoke with a very nice gal in customer service, who said she'd forward my request to management. Guess I'll wait for their official response, but you're saying they want you to destroy your current copy, after which offering proof of they'll then ship a new one, and customer covers the freight (unless as in your instance you're tacking it on to another order)?

Dpoggenburg's picture

First off, this reissue series is a dream come true, so many thanks to Analogue Productions. And I love this record, but sonically, I think it ranges between a 7 to (MAYBE) an 8.5…some of the tracks are just not as well recorded as others, and I think it’s problematic to assign a single rating (especially a “10”) in cases like this (for example, go listen to Hugh Masekela’s “Hope” to hear a “10” from beginning to end).
Second, if the sonics on this one are a 10, how do you grade Aja? A 12? This is not the only time I’ve had this reaction to recent reviews here, and candidly it starts to feel like the reviewers are either overly enthusiastic, or worst case, shilling for the label. It’s all matters of opinion, of course, so if this deserves an unqualified 10 in your opinion, so be it. But as a regular visitor to your site, rating inflation is chipping away at my confidence that we are generally on the same page, and my purchasing decisions are very much influenced by positive reviews from sources I trust. I hope that’s taken in the constructive manner in which it is intended.
On another topic: I get the inconvenience of 45 rpm. But on my system, I could play you A/Bs between 33 1/3 and 45 and it’s not EVEN close. I’ve done it for non-audiophiles and they’ve picked the 45 rpm versions every time. Inconvenient? Yep. Do I want THE best sounding version of these beloved recordings? Yep squared, which makes it worth the inconvenience. Example: the single lp reissue of Can’t Buy A Thrill sounded excellent when I got it, until the AP 45 rpm edition came along and killed it.
A final note about convenience: I find it ironic that audiophiles often express some dismay about 45 rpm editions, given how much money and effort many are willing to expend on their gear and setup. To each their own. Similarly, while I clean every record (every time) before it lands on the table, here too I marvel at audiophiles who can’t be bothered (this excludes, of course, those who lamentably don’t have the $$ - trust me, I get it). The reduction of surface noise is paramount, and I have friends who have BIG bucks systems (INCLUDING record cleaning machines), but they generally can’t be bothered. Again, to each their own, but I’m in this to have the best listening experience I can. And so what if I have to take a few extra steps? Happy listening folks!

Mike Mettler's picture
First, thanks for such detailed, thoughtful, measured comments. I've mentioned the ratings conundrum elsewhere, and I will revisit if we're able to assign "halves" in the visualized ratings system that's been in place here since the beginning -- i.e., could we do a 9.5 when something is between a 9 and a 10, but we simply don't have that option because the pre-designed visual/graphic element won't enable it? Truly a valid point.

Can I give Aja a 15? Well, maybe the Japanese version I have in hand would warrant that rating. Seriously, though, Aja will be more than interesting to evaluate when the time comes, because we already know the master that will be used for it won't be THE MASTER, for many reasons (it can't be found, for one thing).

Let me assure you, we don't shill here. We like what we like/love because, well, we just do. Here's some behind-the-process info for you as to why. We get anywhere from 10 to 20 to 50, or more, LP options for possible review every single week of the year, and it's only going to increase. That adds up to multiple thousands of reviewing options, and we only review up to 100 LPs each year (though, yes, I'd love to review more).

We actually have offline vetting discussions about what's worth reviewing each week. Sometimes we'll say things to the effect of, "This one isn't worth it" because it's not up to our standards. I would rather we review LPs and box sets that are worth recommending to you, rather than deploying so much time and energy dissing releases outright because we all have limited listening time and limited money-spending options as it is.

Let's be honest -- if we gave something a 5, or a 6, or even lower than that, would you bother to read the entire review? Would you even consider buying that album at all? Probably not. Is that scenario really, really worth 1,500 to 2,000 words and countless hours of listening and evaluating time for something you wouldn't even want to buy or listen to at all?

That said, if a release needs to be addressed in a much more critical way, like we did with our review of Pink Floyd's Animals reissue last year, we will do so, because a high-profile release like that one required that level of "we-expected-more-and-here's-why" assessment.

We are also considering doing some semi-monthly combo-platter reviews so we can give more recommendations and/or beware-of's that can be posted in smaller word-count chunks.

Naturally, I welcome further thoughts, discussion, and/or recommendations on all of this. The bottom line is, we want to let you know what LPs and box sets are worth your valuable listening time and what your bank accounts will allow. And I also say that as someone who spends waaaaay more money on LPs and box sets than he probably should. :)

Dpoggenburg's picture

I appreciate your comments and it's easy to find fault with any rating system (5 stars, etc); including fractional ratings should introduce some nuance. As specifically relates to Ecstasy, I just don't hear ANY track that I'd personally rate a "10" (sound, not music).
Anyway, your response includes a point I heartily agree with, which is to use your time and the space here to focus on LPs worth recommending. Therefore, I do not have a problem if, generally speaking, one will only find positive or rave reviews on this site.
HOWEVER, there are always exceptions, and to my thinking there are two scenarios in which you will serve your audience well by panning a specific release:
1) It's part of a series that has a reputation for excellent sound (Blue Note's Tone Poet series, countless AP reissue programs, etc.), but they blew it, for whatever reason. The AP/Verve reissue of James Brown's Soul On Top is a good example of this, as I was quite disappointed with the sonics and would have happily spent my $30 elsewhere.
2) High profile, high cost releases (deluxe box sets, typically). Too many of these are digitally sourced and you can hear it (and not in a good way!)
In any event, I think the AP Steely Dan series is worth EVERY penny from top to bottom: sonics, vinyl quality, magnificent packaging. And of course, some of the greatest music ever made (although I'm more keen on Fagan's solo albums these days; Morph The Cat is a MASTERPIECE!). I'm sorry not everyone can afford these sets. But keep in mind folks, even if used, these things retain much of their value, and commonly sell for more than you paid for it if you take good care of it (including cleaning the record!), so that fact might make it easier to rationalize the occasional budget busting. Happy listening!

Mike Mettler's picture
And I appreciate your appreciation! I get why you wouldn't put Countdown at a 10 in terms of sound or music, and I likely would have gone with 9.5 for the music if I could have. The mighty Dan clan is at such a high level in general that their 10 ratings are fuller 10s than other 10s, you know what I mean? Relative to that, I was told earlier this afternoon that we will be able to institute those half-step ratings increments fairly soon, once the visual-element stuff can be modified by our ace coding/design staff.

Other notes to note...

1) Agreed. We're on the same page here, as that JB release was one we decided to pass on specifically. That one needs a do-over.

2) Also agreed. We'll work on this moving forward.

I too love Morph the Cat in its many incarnations -- and I would actually like to hear a proper LP reissue of 2012's Sunken Condos, for that matter. BTW, have you had a chance to listen to the recent live Dan/Fagen LPs from UMe?

Peter Music's picture

Vinyl noob but Dan-fanatic here. These UHQRs are way over-priced, clumsy with their boxes which should just be tossed, PIA with their flipping every two songs, and I LOVE THEM!!! Worth every penny, and you can have the whole set for the price of a top-tier ticket on Stub Hub. Neither CDs nor previous vinyl have captured both the scale and detail the way these do. I have the rest on pre-order.

On the recent live releases--I find them just OK on CD. But if you're saying the vinyl versions sound good/better, I will order ASAP. Thanks

Mike Mettler's picture
I have both of those live LPs in hand, being the completist that I am, but I haven't had time to spin them just yet, to be honest. When I do, I'll let you know my thoughts -- though anyone who has listened to either/both of them are welcome to chime in here, of course!
markmck12's picture

That is a commendable response to some robust challenges. Here we are again talking about scores. I recently asked a number related question, however I was more interested in further details on why an album did not get a higher score.

In truth I am not convinced the '9.5' approach solves what in essence is an unsolvable conundrum. Why not 9.4...or 9.39? The other reader's comments about how to score Aja if Countdown is a 10 is a philosophically interesting question but this system of scoring works on an individual album by album basis. We are not ranking here. I would be troubled if you felt 'I cant give Countdown a score of x because Aja may be a y.' Here and now listening is the answer. A guide is for guidance right?

Changing topic. I would love to have these 45rpm cuts, but here in the UK they are north of $220, which is a bit stiff. Furthermore, I'm disappointed they did not release the 33 & 45 versions of Countdown at the same time, as they did with Can't Buy a Thrill. To not even have a release date for the 33 at this stage is frustrating.

PS i can't resist picking up the Pink Floyd Animals reference. I contacted the pressing plant here in Europe and basically asked who was responsible for this pile of crap! They responded saying I would receive a new album from the record company. After three months of radio silence I had all but forgotten about it...until a new album appeared in the post this week! Granted it is just the vinyl & inner sleeve but I thought it was a nice gesture. Not played it yet..hopefully it will get a better score than 3.14159...

The future is this way folks - Queue further collective rants about Roger Water's upcoming solo version of DSOTM.

Mike Mettler's picture
Fair point about splitting hairs, er, percentages, er, decimals out to the nth degree of pi, et al -- though the real point is, of course, the merit of the music and sound and overall presentation beyond the numbers, and that's ultimately what we're focusing on in terms of the review content itself.

I also agree re there should have been better coordination with concurrent 33 1/3 and 45 releases of Countdown -- could the lack thereof have been related to other pressing plant priorities for the big parent label, or....? Guess we'll have to see what happens when the Pretzel Logic UHQR arrives.

Keen Observer's picture

"we simply don't have that option because the pre-designed visual/graphic element won't enable it?"

That's just a cop out. There's no fundamental requirement to use that graphic element. There's nothing wrong with plain text. And you could use a scale from 0 to 100 to avoid fractional ratings and give yourself a finer scale.

Furthermore, for the case at hand, the graphic shows a portion of a knob set at "10" with a lower value of 9 and a higher value of 11 in view. The entire knob is not in view, so there's no certainty of what the maximum value is. Thus the "10" rating is unclear. Is the rating 10/11 or 10/12, or what?

Mike Mettler's picture
It is not a cop out. This is an album review file template that has been in place in the AP system prior to my editorial involvement, and that's what is being used. The original design of this ratings graphic element simply did not allow for anything except full number ratings, up to 11. 11 has always been the top end of the ratings scale, for Spinal Tap-related reasons that have been discussed elsewhere. Even if I typed, say, 9.5 into the content area where the ratings then turn into the graphic representation of them, the way this element was originally coded/designed simply did not recognize decimal points.
Paul Boudreau's picture

I find the UHQR boxes unecessarily clunky but maybe that’s just me. An alternate way to deal with any side-opening box set while preserving the stickers is to excise the appropriate end of the end of the shrinkwrap with an X-Acto knife or something similar, leaving most of the shrink intact. Of course then you need to shelve the boxes loosely so you don’t tear the shrink. Such suffering!

Mike Mettler's picture
Interesting idea re keeping that part of the shrink intact for box sets. With more standard 1LP/2LP releases, when I find the hype sticker is problematic in terms of its removal from the shrink wrap/plastic, I cut the shrink around it and keep the sticker within view on top of the cover, since I tend to put plastic sleeves on all my single/double LP sets. Never been a fan of keeping shrink wrap on LPs, maybe because the shrink wrap of yore was of lesser quality, or something like that. Paging Dr. ShrinkWrap...
Paul Boudreau's picture

In recent years I’ve been using resealable outer sleeves so with single-cover records with stickers, I leave the shrink on. If no stickers, I remove the shrink, knowing that the outer sleeve will protect the cover. With gatefolds, I remove the shrink and cut out any stickers, putting them between the cover and the outer sleeves when I put it all back together. Why is this vaguely embarrassing to talk about?

Mike Mettler's picture
No need to be embarrassed, I say! We're all "sleeving friends" here! I tend to use open-ended sleeves for the most part, though I have started to reconsider the resealable ones. I got a bit gun-shy about using them after the one time the sticky/sealable part got stuck on the back cover of one particular LP and I wound up pulling off some of the back cover when I was trying to remove it gently... though clearly not gently enough.

And don't get me started on how I still can't quite understand why many record shops place their price stickers directly on the covers themselves -- or do get me started. Some peel off with relative ease, but many do not, and I'm not a fan of leaving price stickers directly on LP covers or on the plastic protective sleeves either, for that matter.

Paul Boudreau's picture

Same here - beware the resealables with the adhesive under the flap rather than on the body of the sleeves! Messed up a cover or two that way, thank you EIL (they’ve since swiched to the better kind).

Mike Mettler's picture
Good to know re EIL!
Regcd's picture

My have times changed. I guess Chad feels they're giving us a $90 box and liner notes as value. And, not a peep from the audiophile press in regards. IMHO, Blue Note is doing this the proper way with their Classic series and Tone Poets. Affordable, good quality and no $90 boxes to store your precious. I'm

Russo7516's picture

Chad really loves to dent wallets. Ultra High Quality Ripoff .
Will Geffen be doing one on 33 1/3 saving me cash and storage space.

Keen Observer's picture

As I'm holding out for the 78 rpm pressings.

Tom L's picture

I'm with Keen Observer. You can't beat the sound of a five-pound set of 78s. I love to wind up my Victrola, you can really hear the mahogany!

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