Kickstarter Vinyl Project A Bit More Than 25% Funded

"Hearing is Deceiving", the vinyl project designed to find out if we can distinguish between an AAA and an ADA production is now a bit more than 25% funded with seventeen days to go.

Which tells you that only around 250 people have signed on. Folks, I know how many people regularly visit analogplanet.com and 250 is but a tiny fraction.

That means either many people will sign up near the end or we'll never reach the goal of $10,000 or a thousand readers. There's no point in pressing fewer than a thousand copies of the record so unless we get a thousand people contributing $10 a piece, the project will fail, which would be a real shame.

It's up to you! BTW: because of legal issues, "Analogplanet presents" will be removed from the final jacket.

COMMENTS
jtnt's picture

You'll get more backers if you include a link to the project in your post. :)

jtnt's picture

Just realized that links (at least for me) are not indicated in any way on this site. They show up as regular black text until you happen to hover of them. Thus, the link I included in my comment is invisible. Wondering what else I may have missed on the site now!

Here's the URL to the Kickstarter, for clarity: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1805179535/hearing-is-deceiving-aaa...

abelb1's picture

Could we have another option on the project page where we pay $50 (or an additional $40 for existing backers) and get the record? Would only need 200 backers at that level to reach the goal.

Potty Knotty's picture

I would love to support you Michael. But not knowing the actual cost for the album and especially postage, I live in London, I'm reluctant to commit.

Jon's picture

Michael,

I am in the same position. It is not that I do not want to support the project. It is that it is not economically feasible to do so. For people living overseas who are not Acoustic Sounds customers, the "cost" as it stands is not just the price of the album (as it is in the US where free shipping is possible). For us instead, it becomes the cost of the album, plus the cost of a second album (or even three albums) plus the cost of international shipping (Acoustic Sounds have minimum overseas order quantities - one album won't meet the minimum).

So what might cost a regular US-based Acoustic Sounds customer $25 US in total ends up costing someone in Australia like me well over $100 AUD.

That might be OK for the well-heeled but unfortunately that does not cover me. I regret not being able participate but I have to draw the line - as a retiree that sort of money can't be sneezed at. $25 yes of course. But not the $100 plus AUD it would end up being (and the same applies for anyone overseas unless they are regular Acoustic Sounds customers who buy regularly and in quantity).

Dorian Workman's picture

But I really think the structure of the kickstarter could at least be partially to blame (or maybe there just aren't that many people interested). For the record (pun intended) I have already paid my $10, but I think if you'd gone the more traditional kickstarter route with higher pledges getting more stuff (like a guaranteed copy of the record without any additional unknown costs, perhaps....) you'd have more success. I might be wrong, but I know that was at least my attitude.

jtnt's picture

+1

Analogico's picture

my USD $10 (after I had a few glasses of scotch to ignore the exchange rate to MXNs) because I think this is the best chance that something like this, a niche product within a niche market, will ever get to become a reality. I do agree with previous posters that a more expensive but inclusive package would have been more attractive, specially one that included the record and world wide shipping. Based on what I usually pay for new vinyl shipped for the US $50 sounds about the right price for such a package.

essmeier's picture

The funding should have offered an option to actually receive the finished product. Even at $40, the funding could have been achieved at 250 people.

Charlie

Dorian Workman's picture

I wouldn't be surprised if a good % of the people that have already backed would pay that too.

punkzter's picture

I'm also reluctant to fund a limited edition record where I am not guaranteed a copy of the record. There is nothing in the kickstarter about a copy being reserved to be purchased.

Dorian Workman's picture

And various other commenters shot me down in flames! Michael did reply to my comment that a copy is guaranteed - I don't know why he is reluctant to add that info to the kickstarter. I think it might help!

Michael Fremer's picture
I am the first to admit to being a rare Jew born without a business gene, so perhaps I did not properly structure or explain the project. However, the plan is to press 1000 copies after 1000 people have pledged $10.00. I did it that way because pressing fewer than 1000 copies makes little sense. So, if 1000 people pledge $10, each is guaranteed a record at whatever the retail cost turns out to be, minus the $10.00 put into the kickstarter project. As I wrote at the outset, the purpose here is not to make a financial "killing" but simply to cover all costs and that includes some profit for Acoustic Sounds which will be in charge of all administrative and shipping functions.
theboogeydown's picture

"I really wish I could have paid more???"
For the sake of the project, by all means, please do. I have.

jtnt's picture

If you continue with this Kickstarter as-is, I predict a lot of unhappy (at best, confused) backers. I think many (most?) will assume they get the record for backing this, like 99% of Kickstarter projects. And when they find out they don't, they won't be happy.

I thought this when I initially read it. Only now, after reading the above comments, do I understand the odd structure. When I first read it, I thought that backers got the record for $10 and others who didn't back it could buy it in the future for $25. This is often how Kickstarters work after all. Backers get it at a discount over it's eventual retail price.

I would back this if it was structured like a normal Kickstarter. I'm guessing that most people who committed $10 would have committed $50, as others suggest. As is, it's just too unknown.

And too high-maintenance. Why make it so hard on the consumer? Just figure out the costs and name your price. (If they can do that with films and full albums and complex games, etc. you can do that for this.) Getting people to pull the trigger to spend money once is hard enough. Why make people make that decision (and effort) twice?

Just some honest, hopefully constructive, feedback.

Dorian Workman's picture

Completely agree with everything you said (although I did back the $10 anyway).

Michael Fremer's picture
Everyone who kicks in $10 will get a record for the final retail cost minus the $10.00 plus shipping. I though it was clear that I need $10,000 to properly fund the production and that would happen if 1000 people kicked in $10.00.
Michael Fremer's picture
I am not going to be shipping 1000 LPs from my home. This will all be done by Acoustic Sounds, which is better capable of doing this. Therefore, for now I'm not sure what that part will cost. But as I wrote, I will use the $10,000 to produce the record for the 1000 funders who will then be guaranteed a copy through Acoustic Sounds for the final retail price plus shipping minus their $10.00 contribution.
Audio 1's picture

The entry containing the Kickstarter link and description of the campaign should be kept at the top of the main page until the expiration date. Maximum exposure on this site is key to maximum contribution.

Snorker's picture

I agree with Mr. Workman, but for $10 I'll take my chances that we can get this funded and that, if we do, there will be enough records for the backers.

I've never used Kickstarter before, so pardon my ignorance...what happens to the donated funds if the project fails to reach the goal? Do backers get refunded?

mraudioguru's picture

Doesn't charge your credit card until/unless the project gets funded.

Michael Fremer's picture
Doesn't get taken from you unless the project is fully funded, so there is no risk.
Snorker's picture

Good to know. With the clarifications you posted I hope more are enticed to contribute.

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